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 Chico Brito
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    Egito x Líbia ( and Turquia)...

    Egypt and Turkey have long been on opposite sides of the raging battle for the fate of Libya, with Turkey providing major military support and backing for the UN-recognized Government of National Accord (GNA) in Tripoli, and with Egypt backing Gen. Khalifa Haftar.

    The situation escalated over the weekend, amid a pullback of pro-Haftar forces from Tripoli after being defeated in the bid for the capital, when Egypt's President Sisi announced from an airbase near the Libyan border that the Egyptian Army stands ready to intervene in Libya on behalf of Haftar.

    Sisi declared that if GNA forces attempt to enter Haftar-controlled Sirte, pushing deeper into central Libya, this would be a 'red line' for Egypt, forcing it's intervention. Crucially both Tripoli and its main ally Turkey on Sunday condemned what they called Sisi's "declaration of war"

    Turkish state media recorded the GNA statement as follows: "This is a hostile act, direct interference, and amounts to a declaration of war" - in condemnation of Sisi's statements. It added that for the Libyan state, "interference in its internal affairs, attacks on its sovereignty, whether by declarations... like those of the Egyptian president or by support for putschists, militias, and mercenaries, is unacceptable."

    The heated rhetoric, and with Egypt potentially beefing up forces and military hardware along its border with Libya, has some regional sources saying that Turkey and Egypt are headed for direct war in a rapidly intensifying situation.

    "Now Egypt’s president is signaling possible red lines in Libya," The Jerusalem Post writes. "This line could keep the Turkish-backed GNA from Sirte and a strategic airfield at Jufra. The country would be split down the middle. Egypt has a massive army, but it is also an army mostly untested on foreign battlefields."

    Tripoli is now calling on the international community, especially the UN, to step in should Egypt's army get involved.

    On paper Turkey’s armed forces and Egypt’s are well matched. Both have F-16s and hundreds of fighter aircraft. Egypt’s army is the 9th strongest in the world on paper with thousands of tanks. Turkey’s armed forces are thought to be the 11th strongest in the world. Both countries use western weapons systems linked to the US or NATO. Turkey’s work with NATO likely makes it more effective than Egypt.

    Both countries are bogged down in counter-insurgency campaigns. Egypt is close to Libya and can easily move an armored brigade or troops to the frontline. Turkey would have to fly them in and it likely prefers using Syrian rebel mercenaries to do its dirty work.

    In short, the Libya situation - a country on fire since Gaddafi's toppling and death due to the 2011 US-NATO military intervention, or what many have called "Obama's Iraq" - is set to get a lot messier.

    There are already unverified reports that Egypt may be sending jets to Haftar airbases in eastern Libya in support of his LNA.

    If so, Turkey will certainly increase its own aerial patrols, which has already involved ample use of drone warfare in and around Tripoli. But no doubt this would give Erdogan greater excuse to get Turkish fighter jets involved.

    Credito: Zerohedge

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    Editado pela última vez por Chico Brito em 22/06/2020, 21:35, em um total de 1 vez.

     Touro Mecânico
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    Não li, mas sou egiteiro e vou torcer pro Egito

     LL SCCP
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    Quero que a África do norte se foda.

    Nenhum país cristão envolvido.
    Quanto mais mortes, sofrimento e tragédia, melhor.
    Rules  isso

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    Nova onda de refugiados a caminho.
    UltraRS  isso

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    Chico Brito escreveu: O PAU VAI COMER

    Tenso :ohnoes:

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    e tinha gente achando bom a tal da primavera árabe

    óbvio que o resultado seriam mais guerras

    kadhafi conseguia manter a libia em paz e com idh alto

    cara realmente era um gênio e foi muito injustiçado

     Chico Brito
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    Egypt has a legitimate right to intervene in Libya, Sisi says

    CAIRO (Reuters) - Egypt's President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi on Saturday said his country has a legitimate right to intervene in neighboring Libya and ordered his army to be ready to carry out any mission outside the country, if necessary.

    Sisi's comments came amid high tensions over regional rival Turkey's intervention in Libya. He also warned forces loyal to the internationally recognized Government of National Accord (GNA) in Tripoli not to cross the current frontline with Khalifa Haftar's eastern-based Libyan National Army (LNA).

    Turkey's support for the GNA has reversed a 14-month assault on Tripoli by forces loyal to Haftar, which are backed by Russia, the United Arab Emirates and Egypt.

    "Any direct intervention from the Egyptian state has now acquired international legitimacy," Sisi told an audience after inspecting military units at an airbase near the border with Libya.

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     Chico Brito
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    Estados Unidos mandou o embaixador e a US AFRICOM pra Líbia


     Chico Brito
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    Isto sem falar que a US Africom deu uma pirocada na mesa dizendo que a Rússia tá muito saidinha e tá com interesses na Libia.

    @Locke venha cá meu filho

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    Se a Otan não tivesse feito oque fez em 2011, essa situação não teria se alastrado até esse ponto. No mais, o interesse Francês, Egípcio e Russo são em ver o Hafter no comando da Líbia, a Turquia quer manter o governo e as milícias islamicas criadas no pós guerra civil no controle e os EUA esta caindo de paraquedas (não são em princípio contra o Hafter, que morou durante 20 anos na Virgina e foi informante da CIA, mas a aproximação com os Russos é mal vista, ao mesmo passo que não querem uma Turquia saidinha, tem que tentar salvar o governo que botaram no lugar em 2011, é o clássico caso de esquizofrenia diplomática que o EUA sofre no oriente médio).


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